7 May meeting – Media platforms workshop

 

 

 

 

 

As we campaign for independence, Yes supporters are increasingly concerned about how we get our message across in the face of a largely hostile mainstream media.

For our meeting on 7th May, Yes Edinburgh West will be holding a workshop-style event to discuss ways to overcome this.

The subject will be “Media Platforms”, and the workshop will aim to explore what the various platforms are; how best to make use of them; and what actions participants would feel confident in taking themselves going forward.

As always, everyone who is interested is welcome to join us. Our meetings in May and June are at 7.30pm in the Shandon Snooker Centre

https://www.facebook.com/events/171070013713801/

Yes Edinburgh West meeting minutes, Shandon Snooker, 2 April 2018

Yes Edinburgh West meeting minutes, Shandon Snooker, 2 April 2018

1. The format of the meeting was a structured workshop led by Peter Curran, to discuss the issues raised by last Friday’s “Hands off our Parliament” rally.

2. Apologies: Ian Grant, Paul Haldane

3. There were 12 attendees, with no Livestream as it is impossible to cover separate workshop groups. Email addresses given will be added to the mailing list unless anyone objects.

4. Peter set the scene for the discussion by covering the UK Withdrawal Bill, the Scottish Continuity Bill, the Sewell Convention in the Scotland Act (which was supposed to protect the Scottish Parliament from interference from Westminster in devolved areas, but which has been proven to be an empty promise). As a result of Brexit, there are 24 powers which are not reserved to Westminster, but which it wants to deal with at UK level. It has now accepted that there is a “presumption” that these powers will be devolved.

5. The question was posed: “do you support devolution as a path to independence, are you happy with devolution as is, or are you undecided”? All joined the first group (split into 3 groups), one opted for the third. The groups were asked to discuss if they understood Withdrawal, Continuity and Sewell.

6. The next question tackled was “what could go wrong”? The groups were moved around for this discussion. Clearly, looking at the 24 powers, there are things such as fishing and food protection that Westminster could formulate a UK position on that would be damaging to Scotland (for example, they could concede fishing rights in order to obtain a better deal for the City of London, or they could cause substantial damage to Scotland the Brand). Alternatively, the Scottish government could accept an offer of a partial return of powers – this was met with vehement opposition, as it was felt that this is an issue which goes to the root of the question of Scottish sovereignty – are we always to submit to Westminster preferences? Thirdly, the UK could decide to reverse direct and cancel Brexit.

7. The last question was “should we do a range of things to protect the Scottish Parliament”? Again, with different group members. The following action points arose:

  • A letter-writing campaign (to local/national newspapers)
  • Isolate HooP as an issue from Independence, Brexit and any other factors
  • Apply pressure on politicians by email
  • Support HooP petitions and demonstrations
  • Set up a Communications Group (and try to enlist the support of respected journalists)
  • Have more doorstep, social and workplace conversations
  • Street stalls – but indirectly, such as for Scotland the Brand, with openings for HooP discussion
  • Social media – continue with efforts to provide information, but try to get out of the Yes bubble. Use the NYR IndyApp as much as possible (launch is soon).
  • Support efforts to re-establish awareness of Scottish Sovereignty – a new Declaration of Arbroath, the Scottish Covenant
  • Use drama, art and music to reach out to people.

8. AOCB:

8.1 Ann Rayner has attended 2 “Scotland the Brand” market events, and could use some more volunteers

8.2 We are planning a voter survey and a leaflet drop in local areas in April

8.3 Contributions were requested to cover the venue hire of £30.

8.4 It was agreed that we should continue with this venue for at least 2 more months

8.5 Check if the Clermiston Inn is still unavailable on Monday nights (BG)

8.5 Next meeting will be 7th May (another Bank holiday). This will be a workshop on Media.

You’ll find us on Yes Edinburgh West website, Facebook , National Yes Registry and Twitter. Have a look at our Eflets, book previews and film previews. There is also a library of useful information on our SNP branch Forum on Independence and Yes liaison.

Yes Edinburgh West meeting minutes 5 March 2018

Yes Edinburgh West meeting minutes  Newliston Arms  Mon 5 March 2018

  1. Ian Grant opened the meeting by welcoming everybody, and introduced our speakers, Hugh Cullen from the SSP, Maggie Chapman from the Scottish Greens, and Bob Murray, who is unaffiliated to any party, on the subject of “How we can win our Independence”.
  2. A Livestream is available for people who couldn’t make the meeting.
  3. There were 14 attendees, with over 100 following on Livestream. Email addresses given will be added to the mailing list unless anyone objects.
  4. Bob Murray opened by pointing out that he was representing 99.6% of the Scottish electorate – those who are unaffiliated to any party – party members and activists are very much a tiny minority. His view is that there are 5 routes for us to win: wait and see (maybe England will want rid of us), independence imposed by the UN, winning a second Indyref authorised by the UK, winning a Scottish Indyref or election on the issue of independence followed by UDI, or UDI without a further democratic mandate. It may happen through one big event – a commitment to independence by a major celebrity or newspaper, a major meltdown by a senior politician, or a new Prime Minister (Corbyn or Rees-Mogg?). Whatever happens, the unionists have played all their cards before and can’t play them again (Vow, stay in EU, oil running out) whereas the Independence cards are still there, and stronger (democratic deficit, Trident, childcare, Westminster’s economic incompetence and social welfare cruelty etc). When canvassing, Bob confronts people’s preconceptions by stating that he doesn’t need to live in an independent country – but he does want to live in a country which is fairer, more equal, happier and healthier – and the current state is not going to give us that.
  5. Maggie Chapman from the Scottish Greens said she believed there will be a second Indyref, which we will win because of the Yes groups throughout the country. We will win because most people want to live in a different kind of country, with fairer social and economic policies, better environmental policies, and being outward-looking in peace. We will win because the UK state is a shambles – we can point to the evidence of NHS England, Grenfell, racism and xenophobia, precarious work, and Brexit, where it is difficult to see how the circumstances of Ireland, Gibraltar, Wales and Scotland can ever be resolved. Failure to achieve Brexit would result in an angry English electorate and a political move to the right, while Brexit will lead to a poorer economy, with reduced public services and increased taxes for lower earners. We will win by re-imagining the kind of country we want, with power at the lowest democratic level. We will win because the Scottish Parliament has become the focal point of Scottish politics, as Westminster descends into chaos. We must focus on those who can be persuaded, and recognise that there are now more “don’t knows” than before. We must avoid an adversarial tone, hone the mass appeal (e.g. basic income, industrial strategy), reach people who aren’t politically involved, who are ignored and/or shafted. We must understand our local areas and the power structures within our communities. We must build conversations with the right people, listen to them, engage them in conversation with simple local messages and a positive picture of an independent Scotland. We must stop talking to ourselves, arguing on social media and talking to entrenched “No” voters.
  6. Hugh Cullen from the SSP argued that independence is a progressive step, and that the independence case is as strong as ever – we are seeing the worst ever decline in real wages, a chronic shortage of affordable housing and a feudal political system. In the 2014 Indyref, we failed to convince those who were socially, politically and economically better off, and stuck too much to continuity of the current system (e.g. the monarchy). Support has waned since then, because the SNP hasn’t fought for independence enough since 2014. The SSP position is that voting to Remain in the EU was the lesser of 2 evils – it stops us making a transformational case. To win, we must not tie independence to the EU (it’s another example of the democratic deficit (ask Greece and Catalonia), and Brexit may not be as bad as predicted); we must make a compelling, inspiring economic case (including a Scottish currency); we must learn from Catalonia about the importance of an authorised referendum; we need a vision of the country we want to live in (like Scotland’s Future, but a joint effort across all independence-supporting parties); and we need to emphasise the deep crisis of the UK state – particularly its takeover by corporations and a ruling class. Karl Marx said “out of complexity comes clarity”.
  7. There then ensued a lively question and answer session. Peter Curran made the point that we need a helicopter view of what’s happening, to see the UK as a dysfunctional monarchical conglomerate which has never worked well, and agree our core beliefs for a country which delivers equity and justice. Gerry Mulvenna passed on some comments from the Livestream audience.
  8. AOCB: Ian finished with some announcements:

8.1 We are planning a voter survey and a leaflet drop in local areas in March

8.2 Ann Rayner is joining a “Scotland the Brand” event on 10 March, others welcome

8.3 Ian gave an update from meetings he had attended – the Edinburgh & Lothians conference, NHS for Yes and Pensioners for Independence

8.4 Next meeting will be 2nd April

You’ll find us on Yes Edinburgh West website, Facebook , National Yes Registry and Twitter. Have a look at our Eflets, book previews and film previews. There is also a library of useful information on our SNP branch Forum on Yes liaison.

Yes Edinburgh West meeting minutes Mon 4 Dec 2017

1. Anne Donohoe opened the meeting by welcoming everybody, and introduced our speakers, John Bratton and Ross Grahame on the subject of Independence for young and old.

2. A Livestream is available for people who couldn’t make the meeting.

3. Apologies: Selma Rahman, Rene Hamilton

4. There were 19 Email addresses given will be added to the mailing list unless anyone objects. Continue reading “Yes Edinburgh West meeting minutes Mon 4 Dec 2017”

Yes Edinburgh West meeting minutes Mon 6 Nov 2017

1. Ian Grant opened the meeting by welcoming everybody, and introduced our speakers, Michelle Thomson and Roger Mullin on the subject of Brexit: what might it mean for business in Scotland?

2. A Livestream is available for people who couldn’t make the meeting.

3. Apologies: Rene Hamilton

4. There were 22 attendees. Email addresses given will be added to the mailing list unless anyone objects. Continue reading “Yes Edinburgh West meeting minutes Mon 6 Nov 2017”

YES Edinburgh West AGM minutes Mon 2 Oct 2017

Yes Edinburgh West AGM minutes

Newliston Arms 7.30pm Mon 2 October 2017

1. Ian Grant opened the meeting by welcoming everybody, and apologised that Joanna Cherry couldn’t be our speaker tonight – she’s in Catalonia observing their fight for Independence.

2.No Livestream is available for people who couldn’t make the meeting.

3. Apologies: Jim Carey, Rene Hamilton, Paul Haldane, Derek Mullins

4. There were 14 attendees. Email addresses given will be added to the mailing list unless anyone objects.

5. Gerry Mulvenna gave the Treasurer’s report. Finances are healthy, with a balance of nearly £700.

6. Bob Glen gave the Secretary’s report: Continue reading “YES Edinburgh West AGM minutes Mon 2 Oct 2017”

Yes Edinburgh West strategy workshop, Newliston Arms, 11 Sept 2017

  1. Given the nature of this event (and the fact that several groups were in action simultaneously), this is more of one person’s view of it rather than a minute.
  2. A Livestream broadcast wasn’t appropriate (or possible).
  3. There were 18 attendees. Email addresses given will be added to the mailing list unless anyone objects.
  4. Continue reading “Yes Edinburgh West strategy workshop, Newliston Arms, 11 Sept 2017”